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[harecurtis]

Cyanogen mod should make their own cell phone.
I think that would be a real hit for everyone.


please leave comments?

[Jaggd]

That would be great, the main problems I see are funding related though. Maybe Kickstarter would be a good way to go about it?

[harecurtis]

I mean ide be 100x happier and more confident buying a phone with the cyanogen mod and google logo on it because i know it will get "life" updates.

so honestly people start commenting on this and leaving feedback. I will start a movement and help this organization get 1 step closer to become an OEM.

-curtis

[harecurtis]

Jaggd, on 19 December 2011 - 03:59 AM, said:

That would be great, the main problems I see are funding related though. Maybe Kickstarter would be a good way to go about it?

and I applied for a kickstarted account and submitted a proposal.
if anything gets to the point of where it becomes serious, I will contact the higher-ups of Cyanogenmod and we can start from there.
and also I may be able to get a few financial institutions to back this project up

[LoBrau]

Would it not be more cost effective and easier to do what Google does and just get someone else to make the phone for them and to put the Cyanogen mod logo and have it run cyanogen out of the box?

[stab244]

Only if it can be as cheap as the Xiaomi phone.

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[Tony Sidaway]

I don't see why it would make much difference. Companies like Samsung, HTC and many others do a fine job of producing the hardware. Let them get on with it.

[Jaggd]

I agree contracting with a hardware company seems like it would be the simplest way of doing this.

[mdavis]

This would be pretty difficult as long as he's an employee of Samsung, don't you think?

[harecurtis]

Tony Sidaway, on 19 December 2011 - 09:41 AM, said:

I don't see why it would make much difference. Companies like Samsung, HTC and many others do a fine job of producing the hardware. Let them get on with it.

We all have good points; HTC, samsung,motorola have great hardware but when it comes to updates they tend to fail, good example is this:

I bought a thunderbolt less than 6 months ago and I am pretty sure it will never see ICS or if it does Jelly bean will be already out. So HTC pretty much will abandon this phone I have a feeling and push you to upgrade to a newer device, they are out to make $$$ while Cyanogen is here to make a "pure" android experience and to make the android community content with their older phones while running the latest OS version.

Jaggd, on 19 December 2011 - 09:53 AM, said:

I agree contracting with a hardware company seems like it would be the simplest way of doing this.

Contacting a hardware company would be pretty smart, but I would say maybe Pantech. I know whoever is reading this is like WTF why pantech???
well if you contact moto, htc or samsung they would just laugh and say no because you would be competition. where pantech sells maybe 10 total android phones and they arent the best. BUT with that being said, there would need to be some pretty strict guild lines on how the phone is built; It couldn't be build like the regular cheep pantech devices, we would want a durable powerhouse.
so yes I do think that we would need to team up with a company such as pantech or another smaller one, but no htc, moto, etc

[Jotokun]

If a Cyanogenmod phone were to be made, it cant go through a major manufacture and still be considered CM unless it were only sold off contract unlocked. Reason being, carriers in the US are very screwed up in that they require a lot of control over software updates to "ensure it doesnt hurt the phone/our network". You would loose the always up to date status CM has. Not to mention the mandatory bloatware.

Edited by Jotokun, 19 December 2011 - 08:19 PM.

[harecurtis]

Jotokun, on 19 December 2011 - 08:05 PM, said:

If a Cyanogenmod phone were to be made, it cant go through a major manufacture and still be considered CM unless it were only sold off contract unlocked. Reason being, carriers in the US are very screwed up in that they require a lot of control over software updates to "ensure it doesnt hurt the phone/our network". You would loose the always up to date status CM has. Not to mention the mandatory bloatware.

that is very true.
and im glad you mentioned that.
I would say the worst for updates and control (in general) is verizon.
but other companies like sprint and t-mobile are perfect because they dont try to control every aspect of the phone like big red does.
so its still a possibility, but verizon would be out of the question just because of the update issue (and thanks for pointing that out)

[jellybellys]

In all honesty: HTC might like making the cyanogenmod phone. They intentionally make all of their phones easy to unlock the bootloader.

Sent from my Incredible 2 with CyanogenMod

[doctormetal]

jellybellys, on 19 December 2011 - 10:53 PM, said:

In all honesty: HTC might like making the cyanogenmod phone. They intentionally make all of their phones easy to unlock the bootloader.

HTC wants to add value to their phones by using their own framework (Sense). I don't think they want to create a phone without it, unless it is a nexus.

Edited by doctormetal, 19 December 2011 - 11:18 PM.

[harecurtis]

doctormetal, on 19 December 2011 - 11:14 PM, said:

HTC wants to add value to their phones by using their own framework (Sense). I don't think they want to create a phone without it, unless it is a nexus.

I may have to disagree here (we will find out in the coming weeks) HTC sense may be a bye-bye with ICS because there is really no need for it.
and HTC may indeed see this as a good business opportunity so who knows.
but I have contacted a few anonymous agencies to see if I can get the funds rolling in to even start a project like this.

[bassmadrigal]

Me personally? I wouldn't want a CM-branded phone. There are couple of reasons behind this. 1. We could never get the backing of carriers to allow a CM phone. I am not willing to buy a phone off contract. I don't make that much money that I can fork out $500-$600+ for a phone. I would much rather pay the few bucks extra every month to cover the cost of the phone. 2. Even if we were able to get a carrier to allow a CM phone, the software on there would probably be a striped version of what is currently CM, because I doubt the carrier would allow us to have built-in tethering without charging us extra for it. 3. Unless the phone has the exact specs I want, it is worthless to me. I really want a Galaxy Nexus, but I will probably skip on it because of the lack of sdcard support (although, I have until February for another phone with better specs to become available, otherwise I might bite the bullet). The same could be said of others if it doesn't have a slide out keyboard, or if the phone isn't the largest 5" screen (or the smallest 3" screen). There are too many factors to allow people to be happy with a phone, and without the clout of a "Google branded Nexus" I don't think people will just flock to the device. CM would have to have a multitude of devices to make people happy.

While I would love to see a phone with CM shipped on it, I just doubt it would be a phone I would love to get. Maybe some magic can be done, but seeing the way the current manufacturers are, I think it would have to be some unknown company and I doubt the quality that I would expect would be there.

Ideally? I think manufacturers should be more open in allowing custom firmwares in their devices. HTC and Sony have made great strides in this. Sony actually donated devices to the CM team to get support. Motorola has provided us with a lot of promises of unlocked bootloaders, but so far, they are leaving a lot to be desired.

(BTW, this is me speaking as just a user of CM. Please do not take my "moderator" status as any official statement from the CM team. This is strictly my personal opinion and should only be taken as such.)

[harecurtis]

bassmadrigal, on 19 December 2011 - 11:37 PM, said:

Me personally? I wouldn't want a CM-branded phone. There are couple of reasons behind this. 1. We could never get the backing of carriers to allow a CM phone. I am not willing to buy a phone off contract. I don't make that much money that I can fork out $500-$600+ for a phone. I would much rather pay the few bucks extra every month to cover the cost of the phone. 2. Even if we were able to get a carrier to allow a CM phone, the software on there would probably be a striped version of what is currently CM, because I doubt the carrier would allow us to have built-in tethering without charging us extra for it. 3. Unless the phone has the exact specs I want, it is worthless to me. I really want a Galaxy Nexus, but I will probably skip on it because of the lack of sdcard support (although, I have until February for another phone with better specs to become available, otherwise I might bite the bullet). The same could be said of others if it doesn't have a slide out keyboard, or if the phone isn't the largest 5" screen (or the smallest 3" screen). There are too many factors to allow people to be happy with a phone, and without the clout of a "Google branded Nexus" I don't think people will just flock to the device. CM would have to have a multitude of devices to make people happy.

While I would love to see a phone with CM shipped on it, I just doubt it would be a phone I would love to get. Maybe some magic can be done, but seeing the way the current manufacturers are, I think it would have to be some unknown company and I doubt the quality that I would expect would be there.

Ideally? I think manufacturers should be more open in allowing custom firmwares in their devices. HTC and Sony have made great strides in this. Sony actually donated devices to the CM team to get support. Motorola has provided us with a lot of promises of unlocked bootloaders, but so far, they are leaving a lot to be desired.

(BTW, this is me speaking as just a user of CM. Please do not take my "moderator" status as any official statement from the CM team. This is strictly my personal opinion and should only be taken as such.)

I am glad to see an opinion from someone "high up"
and you know what you have some great points, esp with the tethering...but I do think a few carriers would go for it. verizon surely wont but I think at&t may and sprint would for sure. but the only way to know for sure is by trying and seeing what happens
but honestly I could live without tethering, and i know many users cant so that may be a speed bump.

and I dont think we would have to pay $500+ for a phone, I think a few carriers would go for the $250 or whatever their price may be, that would have to be another thing worked out.

But I do thank you for your honest opinion, and encourage you to at least spread the word and toss this idea around?

and about the nexus, get it...its a great phone I have a friend who bought it and he loves it (32 GB is plenty for him and he has tons of apps and movies on his)

[bassmadrigal]

I think the key here would be to find out if a carrier would even be interested. I know earlier this year, T-Mobile tweeted hoping they would see a phone ship out with CM. But I still have a hard time thinking it would get past the required people (whomever those may be in the company) without it getting changed somehow. There are too many regulations in the phone industry. And while we may know that CM is a stable OS, a lot of people will see it as amateurish and not professional.

Hopefully someone will see the light and allow something like this to happen, but I am not holding my breath. I just hope the manfacturers continue in improving their phones' ability to allow 3rd-party ROMs.

harecurtis, on 19 December 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:

and about the nexus, get it...its a great phone I have a friend who bought it and he loves it (32 GB is plenty for him and he has tons of apps and movies on his)

I have a 32GB card in my Nexus One right now, and I wish I had a bigger one... plus with a 720p capable screen, I would probably end up wanting to use a lot more

[harecurtis]

bassmadrigal, on 20 December 2011 - 05:15 AM, said:

I think the key here would be to find out if a carrier would even be interested. I know earlier this year, T-Mobile tweeted hoping they would see a phone ship out with CM. But I still have a hard time thinking it would get past the required people (whomever those may be in the company) without it getting changed somehow. There are too many regulations in the phone industry. And while we may know that CM is a stable OS, a lot of people will see it as amateurish and not professional.

Hopefully someone will see the light and allow something like this to happen, but I am not holding my breath. I just hope the manfacturers continue in improving their phones' ability to allow 3rd-party ROMs.



I have a 32GB card in my Nexus One right now, and I wish I had a bigger one... plus with a 720p capable screen, I would probably end up wanting to use a lot more

I have a feeling that carriers and OEMs will ease up once the first device is in the wild and they see people like it more than the heavily customized bloatware they tend to ship. but I agree and we shouldnt get our hopes up and as of right now its just an idea.

but dang you use more memory than i tend to.
I suggest if you get a tablet go with toshiba thrive (expandable storage is through usb and SD card)
but thats for a different forum.

[bassmadrigal]

harecurtis, on 20 December 2011 - 06:15 AM, said:

I have a feeling that carriers and OEMs will ease up once the first device is in the wild and they see people like it more than the heavily customized bloatware they tend to ship. but I agree and we shouldnt get our hopes up and as of right now its just an idea.

Yeah, if we can manage to get one out there, I am sure the carriers would ease up. It is just a matter of getting that first one. Essentially, I think the phone would have to be another "superphone". Something that turns the heads of people like the Nexus One did when it first came out. But then we saw how well that was adopted outside of the developer and early adopter phase. But I think a lot of it had to do with how Google marketed it. Marketing would definitely be a huge factor in the success or failure of a CM device.

harecurtis, on 20 December 2011 - 06:15 AM, said:

but dang you use more memory than i tend to.
I suggest if you get a tablet go with toshiba thrive (expandable storage is through usb and SD card)
but thats for a different forum.

Yeah, I use my phone as a revolving TV station. When I get new episodes, I put them on there so I can watch them in my downtime when I am not at home. And if I had a 720p capable device, I would start putting my hi-def versions on there rather than the 480p-ish I normally do. Plus I have my revolving nandroids and Titanium Backups, along with all my photos. I am kinda a digital packrat and am constantly having to find ways to clear off my sdcard to get things like XBMC to run properly.