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[Kaik541]

datadata will cause FC's if you fill it up. it's where apps tend to store their settings. move fat apps to the sd card and it'll free up space. or remove apps you don't use. that's the only solution.

[Guy Noir]

Noah Rusnock, on 23 August 2011 - 12:59 PM, said:

Nope, not confusing those two. I am specifically talking about storage space on the device; not RAM. The captivate has 338M RAM (According to About Phone, so 1GB is working fine and WAY above the RAM amount.)

The line of code for the datadata directory reports 98% usage when I am using about 1 GB of storage for apps; If I install another app I get a plethora of FCs... remove the app (or move one to the SD Card) the problem goes away. Checking Settings > Applications > Manage Applications I have ~2 GB available Total and ~ 1 GB being used.

Unless I am not understanding your comment. Please elaborate.

I am sorry but I wasn't being totally clear. The datadata directory (or /datadata or /data/data) is the amount of data storage used by each of the programs you have installed on your captivate. Let's take skype on my captivate. It uses a total of 15.30MB, of which 11.99MB is the program itself and 3.31MB of data. The 11.99MB is what is stored in the 2GB flash. The 3.31MB is what is stored in the data section which is the filesystem known as datadata on CM7. On the captvate build this filesystem only has 172MB total.

There are many posts on this site and other sites about moving some or all of this data from datadata (or /data/data) to external SD cards and then linking the storage back to datadata. But there are many pitfalls to this scheme. Look into those for possible ways out of this dilemma. Usually, some of the larger datadata users (like skype) can be moved easily because they are usually not resident. The problems with moving datadata files to external sd cards (like emmc on the captivate) is that the external sd card sleeps a lot of the time, and loses connection with running programs.

So again look at what is the largest user of datadata and the remove those applications or move the data for those applications to an external sd card.

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Guy

[rainerng]

Does anyone know how to backup my cyanogenmod settings? (so I may restore them after a "clear data" ROM flash).

Thanks

[Noah Rusnock]

Guy Noir, on 23 August 2011 - 05:30 PM, said:

I am sorry but I wasn't being totally clear. The datadata directory (or /datadata or /data/data) is the amount of data storage used by each of the programs you have installed on your captivate. Let's take skype on my captivate. It uses a total of 15.30MB, of which 11.99MB is the program itself and 3.31MB of data. The 11.99MB is what is stored in the 2GB flash. The 3.31MB is what is stored in the data section which is the filesystem known as datadata on CM7. On the captvate build this filesystem only has 172MB total.

There are many posts on this site and other sites about moving some or all of this data from datadata (or /data/data) to external SD cards and then linking the storage back to datadata. But there are many pitfalls to this scheme. Look into those for possible ways out of this dilemma. Usually, some of the larger datadata users (like skype) can be moved easily because they are usually not resident. The problems with moving datadata files to external sd cards (like emmc on the captivate) is that the external sd card sleeps a lot of the time, and loses connection with running programs.

So again look at what is the largest user of datadata and the remove those applications or move the data for those applications to an external sd card.

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Guy

Thanks for the explanation; I feel enlightened :-)

I understand what you are saying and it makes sense, but my experience seems to be slightly different... When I move an app to the SD card using the built in "move to SD" function, the stability returns. Doesn't this just move the app itself and leave the data? Here is an example I am seeing (sorry I don't use Skype so I have to use something else):

Google Shopper (On Phone):
Total: 9.22MB
Application: 8.94MB
Data: 288KB

Google Shopper (Moved to SD Card):
Total: 3.58MB
Application: 3.30MB
Data: 292KB

In this instance the Data goes up, but the Application goes down. This has been consistent in my experience when moving apps to SD; sometimes the data increases and sometimes it stays the same (never goes down), but always the application itself goes down. The datadata directory just got 4KB more data in the directory, yet the stability returned.

Again, unless I am totally missing something here, your explanation seems to counter this example... I am not familiar with the inner workings of Android, so your help is greatly appreciated.

ADDENDUM
I just ran df -h | grep datadata again and I see that it has 172MB of space which is obviously not the 2GB I thought it was supposed to have; my oversight. I have to go now, but I will try running the code before and after moving Google Shopper and see if the results change.

Edited by Noah Rusnock, 24 August 2011 - 01:22 PM.

[Guy Noir]

Noah Rusnock, on 24 August 2011 - 01:16 PM, said:

Thanks for the explanation; I feel enlightened :-)

ADDENDUM
I just ran df -h | grep datadata again and I see that it has 172MB of space which is obviously not the 2GB I thought it was supposed to have; my oversight. I have to go now, but I will try running the code before and after moving Google Shopper and see if the results change.

Just moving applications to the SD card won't help, because the data area (datadata) still contains the same amount of storage, and the amount used actually increases slightly because the application is moved to the SD card and so the path to the application becomes slightly longer therefore the application uses slightly more data. The only way out of this mess is to actually move the data storage for some applications from datadata to the SD card and then link the new storage back to datadata. If you are familiar at all with links in unix or linux then it should be a pretty simple task. Except, for the other problem that I stated which is that you have to be careful as to which data directories you move to the SD card because of the fact that the SD card is not 100% available (especially during the bootup sequence of android). I also believe that you have to re-create the links at bootup with an addition to the android startup script.

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Guy

[aliastx]

andre_pl, on 20 August 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

I'm running 92 and frozen at the lockscreen again.

Edit: I caught the logs: http://pastebin.com/32cGzX1M

Andre, can you please post some information on how you were able to access the logs? It will be very helpful as I keep getting force reboots while on important phone calls (no system settings have been exceptionally modified, including startup apps).


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[andre_pl]

I have adb all set up so I just plugged it in and used adb logcat

[geeksmith]

Where did the nightlies go?  Is there a reason that they stopped with version 104?

[Noah Rusnock]

geeksmith, on 06 September 2011 - 09:55 PM, said:

Where did the nightlies go?  Is there a reason that they stopped with version 104?

Unfortunately, Kernel.org got hacked
https://plus.google....sts/KgMENTC4hhr

If you can't read that...
http://php.webtutor....as-been-hacked/

[Ki77erb]

Noah Rusnock, on 07 September 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

Unfortunately, Kernel.org got hacked
https://plus.google....sts/KgMENTC4hhr

If you can't read that...
http://php.webtutor....as-been-hacked/

Well that sucks! I dont see an ETA either. Hope they get us back on track soon.

[maverick999]

I'm running Nightly 104 with GApps version 20010828 and I'm having Gmail sync issues.  Messages that I delete on my device do not actually get deleted.  Any others having this issue?

[Neezy13]

maverick999, on 08 September 2011 - 10:16 PM, said:

I'm running Nightly 104 with GApps version 20010828 and I'm having Gmail sync issues.  Messages that I delete on my device do not actually get deleted.  Any others having this issue?

You need to get the latest gapps. http://goo-inside.me/gapps 20110613 is the latest one. There were issues with the older gapps packages and CM7.

[maverick999]

Neezy13, on 08 September 2011 - 10:21 PM, said:

You need to get the latest gapps. http://goo-inside.me/gapps 20110613 is the latest one. There were issues with the older gapps packages and CM7.

Whoops.  I meant to say that I'm running 20110828, which is later than 20110613.  Got it from here: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/

[maverick999]

maverick999, on 08 September 2011 - 10:16 PM, said:

I'm running Nightly 104 with GApps version 20010828 and I'm having Gmail sync issues.  Messages that I delete on my device do not actually get deleted.  Any others having this issue?

I think I figured out the issue.  I was restoring Gmail from Titanium Backup after reflashing, so I just uninstalled Gmail and re-installed from the Market.  That fixed it.

[jimsearle]

I'm new to cyanogenmod, installed 7.1 RC1 and so far I am very happy with it. I don't see any discussion or issues posted about recent nightlies. Is moving to 104 a big improvement over RC1? And yes I have read the changelog and it looks like a lot of improvements, but is it stable?

Edited by jimsearle, 11 September 2011 - 05:58 AM.

[Noah Rusnock]

jimsearle, on 11 September 2011 - 05:44 AM, said:

I'm new to cyanogenmod, installed 7.1 RC1 and so far I am very happy with it. I don't see any discussion or issues posted about recent nightlies. Is moving to 104 a big improvement over RC1? And yes I have read the changelog and it looks like a lot of improvements, but is it stable?

I would say yes.

[Noah Rusnock]

Question: Anybody know a way to make the volume buttons change either the System Volume or the Media Volume. By default, if you are on the home screen, the volume buttons control the ringer volume; I would like to change this action. Is there a setting that I am not seeing or an app that can make this happen? ...or is this a feature request that needs to be directed to the CyanogenMod Devs?

Edited by Noah Rusnock, 11 September 2011 - 07:13 PM.

[theyurtingyeti]

Ok, I'm completely new to this forum, but this seems like a good place to start...

I've been running CM7.1 RC1 on my captivate for a couple months now. It has been running awesome, but lately it's been sucking battery life like made and VERY slugglish. A reboot requires multiple minutes (the little arrow going in a circle goes around 30+ times).

Anyways, thanks to this forum and some other places, the best place to start may be upgrading to nightly #104.

So, I've downloaded that as well as the latest GApps. My one question is around data/cache clearing. I'd like to maintain my apps/settings w/o doing a ton of stuff. What's the best way to do that? Should I flash GApps before I flash #104?

Thanks for any help/advice, and let me know if something I've said isn't clear.

[Neezy13]

theyurtingyeti, on 12 September 2011 - 01:20 AM, said:

Ok, I'm completely new to this forum, but this seems like a good place to start...

I've been running CM7.1 RC1 on my captivate for a couple months now. It has been running awesome, but lately it's been sucking battery life like made and VERY slugglish. A reboot requires multiple minutes (the little arrow going in a circle goes around 30+ times).

Anyways, thanks to this forum and some other places, the best place to start may be upgrading to nightly #104.

So, I've downloaded that as well as the latest GApps. My one question is around data/cache clearing. I'd like to maintain my apps/settings w/o doing a ton of stuff. What's the best way to do that? Should I flash GApps before I flash #104?

Thanks for any help/advice, and let me know if something I've said isn't clear.

You don't have to wipe data/factory reset to flash a nightly, generally speaking. It is a good idea to wipe cache and dalvik cache though in my experience. I always backup my apps with titanium backup and do a backup with clockworkmod before flashing though, just in case something goes wrong. When there is a major version change, ie CM6->CM7, you do want to wipe data/factory reset and start with a clean install.

[theyurtingyeti]

Awesome, thanks!